Bad Blood: The Final Chapter podcast

Bad Blood: The Final Chapter

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Hooked on the Bad Blood Elizabeth Holmes SagaThis incredible tale of a grandiose plan from the mind of an average young person and how the curtain was pulled back to reveal it was all an illusion has kept me on the edge of my seat while working. This woman Elizabeth Holmes fascinates me and I’ve been reading, listening and watching everything I can and this is the best telling of her story so far. The protagonist is so complex, and inscrutable - is she just a naive go getter that really believes the lie that if you try hard you can do anything - even when it defies logic - or is she a manipulative, narcissistic sociopath who knows exactly what she is doing? It makes you wonder if she has attachment issues stemming from her childhood and she is seeking approval and admiration to make up for lack of love when she was little? - we’ll like never know but what a character! What a great movie it would make - is Elizabeth just bad or broken??? John, you have done an amazing job of investigating this story and structuring it in a gripping and clever way. The one thing I do wonder is why there are so few interviewees who are positively on Elizabeth’s side. Did she have friends? What about family? I mean she has clearly done things that have hurt people and the potential to do harm but there must be some people who can speak positively of her. I guess they wouldn’t come forward. However, I am worried that this story of a woman falling from grace will damage the progress of women in tech and business in general - I sincerely hope not..Score: 5/5

RepetitionWhile I am enjoying this its feels like its filled out a lot with content from the original episodes and book . The final chapter is supposed to be about the trial so the only relevant info is what is introduced as evidence and feels like the water is being muddied with the old material ..Score: 3/5

Great ReportingI have been following the Theramos case since first reading John’s original WSJ article. Most networks refer to Elizabeth as a fraudster. She has not been tried yet (as of 8th Sept 2021), let alone found Guilty - which means she is not a fraudster yet. If your looking for some GREAT reporting during your the trial - just subscribe to the bonus updates..Score: 5/5

Brilliantly researched and presentedFantastic podcast with engaging but not sensationalist tone. Thank you!.Score: 5/5

Great PoscastVery detailed and well researched podcast, I didn’t know anything about Elizabeth Holmes before this. So recommend highly. The only other thing I want to know is how did you get Kermit the Frog to play Elizabeth Holmes in E03 🤔🤭.Score: 4/5

Delicious - even juicer than the bookI am absolutely loving this podcast. John Carreyrou is a fantastic researcher and storyteller - it’s great to have him with us throughout the trial and I appreciate the fabulous, unrelenting, rigorous, brave work he’s done to expose Elizabeth..Score: 5/5

The Story ContinuesI came across John Carreyou’s book whilst browsing in a bookshop in San Francisco just after it was published. Since then much more information has come to light in the lead up to the Holmes and Balwani trials (the former starting this week) and this podcast is the perfect catch up vehicle. Two episodes in and anticipating lots more revelations..Score: 5/5

Subscription for episode 10…I understand having bonus episodes as part of the subscription, but dropping a standard episode 10 as a subscription only episode seems unreasonable. There are other very good podcasts covering this with no charge..Score: 3/5

ExcellentReally interesting and well researched podcast by the guy who literally wrote the book about this sorry saga. Highly recommended.Score: 5/5

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Bad bloodExcellent forensic investigation, I’ve listened to a number if other podcasts but this is by way the best !.Score: 5/5

Superb StorytellingThis is my favourite feed at the moment. I’m not American, don’t live in the US (though I have in the past), am not a lawyer and I don’t work in healthcare. I have no reason to like this show other than it being a fantastic story, told in a great format in a very compelling way. Yes I read Bad Blood and loved it. So was already aware of the story but this feed is next level. Why? 1. The free feed is packed with new material: deposition recordings, interviews, new evidence that came to light after John’s book (thanks to the legal proceedings I think). All this just adds so much to the book, gives it more substance and relevance (besides adding to the credibility it already had). 2. The paid feed is just a treat. It’s a weekly roundup of the trail told by two people who are in the room - John (himself a listed witness) and his colleague Emily Saul, a journalist specialised in court cases. So much “meat”, substance. I’m a big podcast consumer but up to now have resisted going “premium” on all my other feeds but this one I couldn’t resist. Well done John. Please turn this into a Netflix/Prime/Apple TV series next..Score: 5/5

Bit repetitiveThe podcast was just okay I got to episode nine and had to leave it there due to no other episodes after that. I wanted to listen to the court case extracts but you have to subscribe in order to hear that I’m not gonna carry on with this so I will never know if she was jailed or not.Score: 2/5

BBFascinating and well structured podcast. Love it…just wish there were more :).Score: 5/5

FantasticI have been counting down the days for this podcast to start, I have not been disappointed gripping!.Score: 5/5

Great so far, looking forward to moreLove the podcast as I did the recent film doco too. One recommendation would be not to have text clicks underpinning the texts. It is pretty distracting when trying to listen to an audio only production. Also agree with a previous review referencing the Kermit like voice for Elizabeth :). Love it tho..Score: 5/5

A good continuation of previous workGreat reporting and storytelling as came to be expected from the book. Highly recommend!.Score: 5/5

BrilliantLike the book…. So real and exciting … …. Can’t stop listening ….Score: 5/5

Great podcast, but some problems with subscriptionThe most comprehensive and insightful podcast on the Theranos case. Extremely well researched and compellingly narrated, like the book. Just one small problem (which might not be down to the show at all): if I try to listen to the latest episode (5) I’m asked to sign up for a paid subscription. I thought the subscription was needed only for ad-free episodes and additional contents….Score: 5/5

InsightfulThis podcast is very interesting and educational in terms of the laws in the USA. For example, “mail fraud”. I just didn’t know what the ‘mail’ part of that was about - now it’s clear to me. I’m from the UK btw. The female presenter asks great questions and the lawyer guy explains everything in laymen terms. Excellent!.Score: 5/5

How can I subscribe?Do we really have to pay to listen?.Score: 5/5

Absolutely intriguingI wish there were more episodes and often find myself refreshing wishing there were more! Have never been so glued by a case and credit to John for the knowledge, dedication and compelling focus on finding and exposing the truth- seriously impressive..Score: 5/5

Why is Elizabeth Holmes voiced by Kermit the Frog?Terrific podcast, with much detail, carefully worked through. What I don’t get, however, is why the producers appointed Kermit to be the voice of Elizabeth Holmes’s text messages. Mystifying..Score: 4/5

Fantastic journalismGreat work again by Carreyrou, following on from his ‘Bad Blood’ book. Fascinating and terrifying to hear further details of Elizabeth Holmes’ & Sunny Bilwani’s bluffing and bullsh**ting, and their defences leading up to the court case finally being heard (at time of writing, it’s just begun). Well narrated by the man himself. Let’s hope justice is served!.Score: 5/5

AmazingThe best podcast.Score: 5/5

ExcellentAs good as I knew it would be, having read the book..Score: 5/5

Brilliant podcastThis is a brilliant podcast, well delivered and written. I really enjoyed them all, so fascinating..Score: 5/5

Fascinating stuffClose, robust analysis of this case that is just bonkers.Score: 5/5

Enjoyable, though a little biasedAfter the original podcast, we see Holmes facing justice, and are guided along the chilling story of her deceit and dangerous behaviour, by the Wall Street Journal reporter who brought her company crashing down. The show is compelling, and full of shocking moments, though tainted slightly by a biased tone. The unflattering approach to the story is warranted, but combined with the host’s history with the company, and some tenuous cognitive leaps, can make the podcast feel like a hit piece at times. The stellar journalism and breathtaking detail shines through the most, however, and the overall result is a show that enthrals as it exposes. Additionally, the voice used in some of the ads is extremely dry and unfortunately quite unpleasant to listen to, I find myself skipping to not hear the voice, rather than avoid the ad..Score: 4/5

You have to look at all angles in this saga- Always enjoyed John’s exposé about this story.Score: 5/5

Great but how do you get the extra episodes?I can’t find a link or similar to access the extra episodes. Aware it’s paywall but can’t even find that.Score: 5/5

Definitive story of Elizabeth Holmes by the journalist who cracked the caseWith timely updates from the court proceedings.Score: 5/5

Just AdsHad to stop listening as I was trying to get into it but far far too many ads unfortunately.Score: 2/5

A great follow up to the bookI loved the book - I didn’t think the biz world would promote another monster after Madoff, those who built then brought down Enron, Maxwell, and Nick Leeson and Barings etc…..but here we have Elizabeth Holmes in all her psychopathic detail. JC has continued this story in his brilliant podcast…..and the whole situation is panning out like a Shakespearean play except this time it’s true….JC’s tempered analysis is superb and his insight really puts a microscope on the Holmes. We see, in real time, the stupidity of the biz world, the greed of investors, the lack of basic due diligence, and how old men fell in love with a modern day witch also feted by feminists…..Score: 5/5

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ExcellentJust finished the latest episode. Fantastic reporting from the man who broke the story..Score: 5/5

Give this man all the awardsDeeply impressive (and terrifying) that the integrity of vital health care depends on the work ethic of a single reporter, instead of hundreds of regulators and VIP investors. Kudos also to Theranos for achieving the modern entrepreneurial ideal of convincing people to buy an empty box at a great mark up. Truly groundbreaking work in 21st century snake oil marketing..Score: 5/5

Good but too many subscription episodes not enough free episodes , lose continuityEnjoying but some episodes require paid subscription.Score: 2/5

BestThe best pod about Theranos.Score: 5/5

Great PodcastI am enjoying this podcast as much as I enjoyed John’s book. Great reporting and analysis!.Score: 5/5

In-depth reporting and analysisI think this is the better of the two podcast currently following the trial. I am enjoying it as much as I did the book by Carreyrou. However, even after signing up for subscription, there are still many ads interspersed in the episode. I get he needs to get paid somehow, but promising ad-free content for subscribers but not delivering is disappointing. I have since canceled that subscription..Score: 4/5

1 star for paid Subscription contentEnjoyed the podcast but will only give it 1 star due to paid subscription content with ads still… Seems this is the direction wondery podcasts are moving towards will no longer listen and support any of these shows.Score: 1/5

A must listenI’m hooked. The power of great journalism..Score: 5/5

Highly recommendThis podcast is a must-listen. Even though this is a case that involves the science of blood testing and allegations of financial wrongdoing, Carreyrou makes all of the concepts easy to understand. It’s a riveting and important story that never ceases to amaze..Score: 5/5

If I hear Sunny, sunnySunny, Sunny one more time?!?!?!?A deep dig on an already deep dive. And the host has a loooong handled spade ⛏.Score: 5/5

Fantastic!!!John Carreyrou is the real deal. When the title of ‘investigative journalist’ was coined, they had this man in mind! A fascinating & deeply troubling story, reported brilliantly! I wish all podcasts were of this caliber..Score: 5/5

Thank you for reportingThis really demystifies corporations and experts - some are actually doing their due diligence but others in high up places are too comfortable and aren’t being sceptical the way we need people to be if science is to truly prevail. Amazon reporting - thanks!!.Score: 5/5

The New Theranos??Great podcast! Would love to hear John’s opinion on the new firms that are trying to replicate Theranos’ business plan and product, finger stick testing. I’ve seen them on other news outlets, and would like to know if John believes them to be frauds as well, or did they truly perfect the technology?.Score: 5/5

Sincerely not a fan of JCThe most relevant content is saved for Apple something subscribers. I’m not paying for that. The ‘free’ episode shared after was less relevant and the guy has a super clear vendetta against EH. It’s very American reported, I’ll just say that. I’m listening to another EH podcast and the episodes get released on schedule, they are relevant, and they are less condescending to Holmes as a person. She deserves jail time no doubt about that, but the first episode starts with a terrible voice actor mimicking the sound of Holmes’ voice. As a female listener, I’m over it. She spoke deeper so men would take her seriously - get over it..Score: 1/5

Thumbs upGreat podcast with wonderful journalism and research. Clearly Mrs. Holmes is a narcissist and fooled many people who should have known better. Greed can be blinding I guess. Highly recommend this podcast. M.K Canada 🇨🇦.Score: 5/5

ExcellentJust finished listening to this excellent podcast by a reporter who first broke the story. I highly recommend it!.Score: 5/5

Disappointed the last 3 episodes are by subscription onlyI readily listened to commercials and in-house promotions because I saw that as the original price of admission. I bought the Carreyrou book, which was well worth reading and i’d recommend it to anyone. But surprised by the subscription creep….Score: 1/5

Gold Standard ReportingThis is a podcast that will be used as an example of what good reporting should look like. Factual and unflinching, methodical and heavily researched. Presented perfectly. Completely riveting. Well done to everyone involved..Score: 5/5

EverythingThis podcast (all reporting) by John is incredibly professional and informative. I am on the edge of my seat for the weekly bonus trial episodes! I have never subscribed (paid $) for a podcast before this one but John’s coverage and insight is worth every last penny ;).Score: 5/5

Excellent!👌👌👌.Score: 5/5

Great but A LOT of adsAmazing reporting but a lot of ads. The podcast the Drop Out covers the same ground but with fewer ads..Score: 4/5

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Excellent!If you want to know what is happening with this case, you have to listen to this podcast..Score: 5/5

Bad BloodGreat podcast. Why isn’t this story reported on the news, ever?.Score: 5/5

One of the best podcastsThe narrator is very interesting, super competent and educational The story is one of the best I have heard. Thank you for bringing the story and delivering it in a way that keeps you on the edge of the seat.Score: 5/5

Blonde, White, So BelievableTime and time again, these investors, corporations, partners were willing to take Holmes’ word for technology that they did not test or witness themselves, to fork over millions just because this blonde white girl appeared to be one of them and certainly not a liar, criminal, or suspicious person. What it reveals, also, that Walgreen’s is lacking in judgement. Saddest is the personal stories like the rift between Tyler and his granddad George Schultz. That Mr. Diplomacy could be duped so thoroughly as to oppose his own grandkid is tragic.Score: 5/5

PS. Excellent FREE podcast, not worth paying for bonus contentSince my iffy review of the paid version, we got two more short, thin, and well…not worth it. His book is great. The free episodes are great. The paid version is Bad Pod. I am unsubscribing, would like a refund. As my review title suggests, there are few bonus episodes , there is repetition, and often just 15 minutes. I bought and read his book, which IS excellent. Buy the book, not the subscription..Score: 1/5

Interesting but not helpful to understand the trialThis show is no more than a continuation of Carreyrou’s understandable fascination with a story for which he deserves primary credit. But the show poorly conveys what is going on in the trial. Carreyrou often displays a disturbing ignorance of how trials work, reflecting that he apparently has no legal consultants helping him. Emily is more rational but she also is not a lawyer and does not do a good job of consulting outsiders with knowledge and bringing it to bear to analyze what is happening in the trial..Score: 1/5

No bonus episodesAt the end of the episodes we are instructed to subscribe on Apple podcasts for bonus This week in Court episodes. I believe there are 10 of these, but only #4 is currently available to people who subscribed as requested. Ironic since their podcast was about lying and deceptive marketing techniques that they themselves run a bait and switch..Score: 1/5

FascinatingEnjoying listening along while also following the trial in the news. This situation is a testament to the power of story. First, the stories that Elizabeth Holmes told, and now the story she has become..Score: 5/5

There are still amazing reporters looking for truthWell I am just now listening to the podcast given that I know the situation has existed for the last few years, the investigative reporting on this is so amazing and professional given the sensationalism and fear mongering the daily and common news reporter participates in. To have this level of intelligence and reporting based in fact is absolutely astounding. Well done! My only complaint - and I know it seems picky but somebody needs to talk to Emily Saul about her constant “uh”, “uhm”, “and uhm”. She has great information to share but I’m so distracted by the way she speaks I find myself fast forwarding the parts of the podcast with her talking..Score: 5/5

This week in court released for free!?The 9/27 episode of this week in court was released to non-paying subscribers of this podcast. What sort of incompetent would do that after proudly announcing that the court summary episodes would be behind a paywall and enticing people to pay for them? Makes me question carryrou’s credibility entirely. Update: if you were thinking of getting the subscriber addition. Do not waste your money the subscriber edition actually has commercials even though it’s advertised as not to. Check out the latest episode called “fake demos”. It actually has advertisements. John Carryrou it’s trolling us by committing fraud. update: 11/17/2021 this week in court still has not appeared. This was supposed to be one of the perks of subscribing to this godforsaken podcast. This is such a fraud. John Carryrou is pulling in Elizabeth Holmes right now on Twitter claiming that the issue has been fixed when it has not. When will the similarities end?.Score: 1/5

Great Content, Horrendous AdsThe woman reading the ads needs to cool the vocal fry. It’s ridiculous and it gets worse each episode! Please stop!.Score: 4/5

Has me enthralledThe documentary about Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes was fascinating but this is even better. So many details, well-narrated. Can’t stop listening..Score: 5/5

Fascinating, but I cannot handle Emily Saul’s voiceFascinating story! Can’t say enough good things about how well this was produced. One of the best podcasts of the year in my opinion. John Carreyrou deserves a lot of recognition for the work he did on the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos disaster. Only downside is when Emily speaks. “Uh” or “Um” every other word and a vocal fry that is very distracting!.Score: 4/5

Best podcast right nowThis podcast isn’t only about true crime the toxic Silicone Valley culture. It tells a story about the United States: how companies and lack of oversight can lead to actual harm. We had such an urge to admire a woman in corporate America that we forgot to ask the toughest questions about ethics. It’s also a family story and what power does to people and how experience and well connected men shouldn’t be taken at face value. The story of the Shultz family and Tyler is heartbreaking. And somehow of a redemption of the FDA. It’s a lot of current events packed in one podcast! And John is an excellent narrator. Great book and amazing podcast..Score: 5/5

Can’t access episodesApple needs to get this working better. I subscribed but the newer episodes just don’t show up. No idea how to fix this. This app is so bad..Score: 1/5

Gripping and fascinatingMany podcasters these days are not good story tellers — this one is Excellent! The story rolls out in a gripping way where you can’t wait to hear what comes next. All the while the actual trial of Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes is playing out in real time and it’s fascinating..Score: 5/5

I’m all about making money…..butWay too many “subscription only” episodes. They deliver the goods when it comes to covering this story but how can the WHOLE story be told behind a paywall? Bizarre move. The ABC pod covering this trial is far better. Go there for your Theranos drama fix. This pod is tedious..Score: 2/5

Einstein WinsHey John, Regarding EH’s erotomania, delusional references or ruminations, between her and Jobs, particularly how they both wore the same ensemble everyday, after day, to save time or thoughts, whatever, etc. Shouldn't this credit or comparison go to Einstein? Or should it not? Perhaps Jobs didn’t read enough to know Einstein started doing this when he came to America..Score: 5/5

Don’t payYou can get all the information for free on other podcasts. Wondery, stop with the money grab.Score: 1/5

The commercialsGreat pod, but voice of the narrator of the commercials will drive you to throw your phone across the room..Score: 1/5

Way behind.Why so long between episodes??.Score: 3/5

Baited premium and then inconsistent with new episodesFeels like a scam. Paid for the premium option, and once I did, new episodes stopped. Then started again. Then stopped. Also seems like content is drying up and some of the “new” episodes are just recaps of previous ones..Score: 1/5

Great Listen!I’ve followed and obsessed over a few of these Podcasts/books on Theranos / Elizabeths Holmes and this one pulls all of the pieces together better than others. Maybe because he was a major part of the eye opening of the fraud, but I listened with bated breath and pure intrigue and emotion. Amazing work!.Score: 5/5

Podcast feels like it’s a hobby - they take money and put content out when they feel like itThis feels like it’s a hobby. They put out episodes some weeks and then go for weeks without episodes and never say anything. It’s inconsistent and I am paying for it..Score: 1/5

StunningIncredibly well-crafted tale that still has me shaking my head. One piece of constructive criticism: in the weekly trial updates, please ban the word ‘interesting.’ Both hosts use it far too often and though it may be only my pet peeve, there is always another, better word to use in each instance..Score: 5/5

Love this podcast but can’t access the trial updatesJohn Carreyrou does a super job of distilling the facts into a coherent narrative. I would really like to hear the episodes with trial updates but they are not in my subscription feed - when I went online to page on Apple podcasts I can see the episodes but they do not have a play but like the regular ones. Any advice? Thanks!.Score: 5/5

DO NOT LISTENSo, i was captivated by like the first 3 and a half episodes but honestly this is so boring. it feels like i have to force myself to listen to it. and to say this was literally the 2nd podcast i ever listened too im very disappointed. i love anything about true crime, i have always been a fan but i have never been so bored and lost interest so fast in my life. please consider reading this before wasting your time! It’s repetitive and drawn out when the episodes could've been shorter!.Score: 1/5

ExcellentI can’t get enough of this story…I am enthralled with swindlers of epic proportions…Bernie Madoff, now Elizabeth Holmes. Following several podcasts just about Theranos and this one is amazing. It’s almost like a John Grisham novel…but all true. Amazing story and great reporting..Score: 5/5

Very SatisfyingThis is a great podcast!It gets into in the weeds details on some of the behind-the-scenes activity of Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. I’ve listened to other podcasts on the topic and this one is very satisfied because it paints some of the background in more color and detail so it’s really fascinating if you are a follower of this insane story. Really well done! Binge worthy..Score: 5/5

Commentary on Holmes Day 1 disappointingVery disappointed that Holmes make-up and outfit featured first (and at all) before getting to the actual substance of her testimony. Query if that would have been the reported commentary for a male defendant or witness. C’mon - y’all can do better..Score: 4/5

Bad bloodI don't write many reviews, but “Bad Blood: the final chapter” is an enrapturing study of tech, legal, and human nature. I’ve worked in an environment like this of secret code, a fast rising-charismatic star, staff abuse…. I feel for all Ms. Holmes victims—rich or a cowed intern—Mr. Carreyrou brings it all to life in a “can’t put down” podcast. Please don’t stop here, the ego of silicon valley has many of these stories to tell..Score: 5/5

Amazing story of a corporate psychopathI say this because how can a sane person fool so many people and have no conscience? She’s a textbook narcissist and thank goodness Tyler Shultz blew the whistle on her despite all the intense pressure from his family, Elizabeth, and her cronies. And John Careyrou had serious gumption to take on this investigation that shocked the tech world. Mr. Careyrou’s investigative reporting is easy to understand and top notch. He has a voice that is clear and easy to listen to. I’m completely obsessed with this case and I find myself getting antsy waiting for the next podcast from Bad Blood. I almost dressed up as Elizabeth Holmes for Halloween but I figured nobody would know who I was!.Score: 5/5

Not Worth the $$I loved the original (free) podcast, but the new subscription-based version just isn’t worthwhile. Most of the content is rehashed, and the updated from our case are slow and inconsistent. I feel like the author is milking this story for more than it has in it..Score: 2/5

Another LayerThis podcast gives a perspective beyond the courtroom and provides a deeper and nuanced understanding of the players and circumstances. In particular ep 10 on George and Tyler Schultz and how Holmes impacted their relationship is heartbreaking..Score: 5/5

Really!?!?I have been enjoying this podcast from the beginning. Would have gotten five stars from me if I’d decided to write a review. But really!?!? Holmes takes the stand and you don’t file a bonus edition. Why am I subscribing if you are no longer going to be dependably “go-to” on this story. DISAPPOINTING.Score: 1/5

Mostly Old NewsMost of what John covers in the free version of the podcast is old news. It’s stuff anyone who has followed this story has known for years at this point, with maybe one or two additional details. The Dropout is much better in terms of keeping up with the ongoing criminal trial..Score: 2/5

Excellent coverageThis is an absolutely excellent recapitulation of the trial end of the Theranos saga. John Carreyrou and Emily SaulAre much more compelling to listen to them any of the other main stream broadcast companies who provide a podcast around the story. I have to admit I am experiencing a strong sense of schadenfreude when I listen to this however. Iwould delight in seeing Elisabeth Holmes and the other co-conspirators go down!.Score: 5/5

Real Journalism. The BestFinancial fraud as told by the man who investigated and broke the story. Would love a companion series from Carreyrou covering the trial as it happens, as well as the inside scoop regarding Holmes’ attack in trying to kill the story. I’m grateful for the WSJ standing by this story..Score: 5/5

Not worth the moneyGreat story, but what have provided for subscribers??? Just about nothing. Inconsistent updates and No Update when Elizabeth takes stand????.Score: 1/5

Gritty, Well Done, AddictiveWow, this is a good podcast. After the first episode, I dropped everything and just listened to this whole podcast the whole way through. I never knew something as mundane as blood testing and SEC fraud could be so edge of your seat fascinating. This show brings clarity to the whole mess that is Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes. There’s a bigger lesson to be learned here though: Not only does this podcast show how things fell apart at Theranos, it shows you how so many people in this world can believe incredibly flimsy information with absolutely no evidence and how those people can move billions of dollars and the hearts and minds of so many unwitting people to go along with them, all based on lie after lie. Sound familiar?.Score: 5/5

Podcast junkieThis is the most in depth and thorough look at Elizabeth Holmes and her company. I've read and listened to other podcasts but they barely scrap the surface to what this podcast outlines. I wish the jurors in her case could listen to this..Score: 5/5

Exceptional reporting and storytellingA+ podcast.Score: 5/5

Compelling storyWow. This podcast is testament to the power (and thrill) of investigative journalism. Several times I couldn’t stop playing it, as his exploration became suspenseful and unsettling..Score: 5/5

ExcellentI absolutely love this podcast however if we could have a little less thinking out loud (uhs and ums) it would be even be better. I wish you could do an update after every single court session..Score: 5/5

Free Podcast Okay, Subscription not Worth ItI was so so excited when I initially heard that this podcast would be covering the trial and providing additional information about this ongoing story overall. While I found the first few episodes to be very interesting, my enthusiasm for this podcast has slowly disappeared. I was paying for the subscription part of the podcast, but found the trial updates to not be very in depth or posted with any consistency. I have found a few other sources (podcasts, news websites) that have given me more in-depth information on a more timely basis. As someone who has followed this story for a number of years and listened/read everything available on it, the subscription is not necessary and the free podcast information being released now has been stated in other places as well. Better off reading Carreyrou’s book and listening to the Dropout Podcast, in my opinion. If you want live court updates, I’ve been following the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal who have reporters writing daily about what happens in the courtroom..Score: 2/5

Love this podcast!What a great podcast if you are interested in following this case!.Score: 5/5

GreatJohn Carreyrou's reporting is terrific. Knowledgeable and organized so well. I recommend this podcast to anyone that listens..Score: 5/5

Wonderful ReportingI look forward to this show every Thursday. It’s truly one of my favorite podcasts. The reporting is so wonderful and the story is told in a captivating way that makes you want to keep listening. Kudos to a job well done!.Score: 5/5

AwesomeThe book was great, and the podcast is fantastic. I wait with bated breath for the next installment..Score: 5/5

Appreciate the attention to detailAs a person who has spent nearly 30 years working as a medical laboratory scientist, and who now is a regulator for state and federal laboratory inspections, I appreciate the willingness of Mr. Carreyrou to make the language of laboratory testing accessible to the general public, and also the attention to detail in outlining the things that were so blatantly terrible. Something Elizabeth Holmes did not understand about medical laboratory personnel as she was promoting her alleged technology is that laboratorians are interested in new technologies. We love anything that can positively advance our field for the care of patients. We skeptical precisely because she was so secretive about the alleged technology. Keep up the great work on reporting this story!.Score: 5/5

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Great show and worth paying 5.99 a month for.An impressive array of intelligent analysis and detailed evidence. I can’t wait to hear the next episode (3). Only complaint is the female journalist’s voice is miked badly or she needs speaking lessons. Lots of Ssss noises and raspy voice is off putting at times..Score: 5/5

Ruined by “voice fry”This is a pretty good podcast both topically and production- however- the voices frying by Emily Saul is not broadcast quality. Do these people not review their work. Couldn’t finish due to this..Score: 3/5

Awesome!I can’t wait for the poor lil me defence. Been looking forward to this..Score: 5/5

OutstandingAmazing, thank you. Can’t wait for episode 3.Score: 5/5

Wow!A riveting story told by the reporter who broke it. You won’t believe your ears!.Score: 5/5

AmazingWell written and not one boring moment..Score: 5/5

EnthrallingI’m in Sydney so we don’t get the latest developments in our general news. I find I just can’t wait until the next episode. Terrific amount of detail as to how Elizabeth managed to con so many seemingly smart people. Just fascinating..Score: 5/5

My favourite podcast this year.Such a great podcast, love the calm way Carryrou speaks and has so much knowledge of this case. Also a wonderful follow on from the book. I find if I listen to other podcasts on this topic after listening to this one they all seems so elementary! I wait for this to drop every week. Thank you for making such a wonderful show John! Listening from Australia..Score: 5/5

Bad BloodYuk. You are distracted by the waiting for the next sly ad. Unlistenable..Score: 1/5

Gripping…my iPad hard listening to Carreyrou. Almost feel like I am in the courtroom. Also kudos to the reviewer who pointed to the hilarious Cancelled poddy on Theranos. Charge: Girl Bossed Too Hard; Sentence: one needle..Score: 5/5

Easily in the top 10Easily in the top 10 best podcasts I’ve listened to. Thank goodness we have hard working journalists like this keeping everyone honest..Score: 5/5

Bad Blood The Final Chapter podcast.Absolutely sensational. Compelling listening. Brilliant production. Music accompanying it is quite fantastic but most important of all is John Carryrou. His forensic analysis is quite breath-taking. I read his book which was equally brilliant. This podcast is definitely a 5 star if not a 10 star listen..Score: 5/5

Don’t bother subscribingI have followed this story for years, its fascinating. So naturally I paid the subscription and was expecting to be able to listen to not just “The Final Chapter” but all the previous episodes. They suddenly disappeared as soon as I subscribed. Also, it’s literally just 10-15min a week of tiny pissy little updates you could get on YouTube or any news network. Not exclusive, not anything we haven’t heard elsewhere, hardly value for money. You’ll get more out of the FREE podcast The Dropout with actual episodes that go for 45min..Score: 1/5

Great podcastVery informative, interesting and presented in a really engaging way. Intriguing stuff, can’t wait for more..Score: 5/5

DownunderCannot wait for this!!.Score: 5/5

The Dropout is betterCarreyrou may have literally wrote the book on Theranos (read it, it’s great), but ‘The Dropout’ is the better podcast. The bad blood podcast is painfully slow to release new episodes and the subscriber only content is not worth paying for. The Dropout Elizabeth Holmes on Trial is better..Score: 2/5

SensationalThank you John for your exceptional and dedicated reportage. The most compelling story to ever come out of Silicon Valley. Andrea C..Score: 5/5

Subscription isn’t worth it.Compared to The Dropout - which is free - this podcast offers moderate value, or poor value if you pay for it. 15 minutes once a week for so-so subscriber content, plus an ad-drenched free show combined offer about the same information as its free competitor..Score: 2/5

Where’s the first series of episodes gone?Where has the previous episodes gone from season one?.Score: 5/5

AmazingLove this Podcast! It is so professional and informative and interesting!.Score: 5/5

Compliance MattersBrilliantly presented and extremely insightful! The medical device industry is so heavily registered and cowboys like Elizabeth need to be exposed and made accountable. Great investigative work and well told!.Score: 5/5

Intelligent and engaging podcastIntelligent and engaging podcast. Lots of new (and astounding!) info too, all presented clearly and succinctly. I hope Mr Carreyrou writes a sequel to the first Bad Blood Book..Score: 5/5

Epic!!Read Carreyrou’s book - awesome to have him doing this podcast. Fantastic journalist!.Score: 5/5

Informative and easy listeningIt sounds like it is well researched and is therefore informative. Carreyrou speaks calmly and clearly, which makes it easy to listen to. We need more journalists like Carreyrou..Score: 5/5

Bert or Ernie?Lol Elizabeth sounds like Bert or Ernie, even the voice over sounds abit cartoonish, altho it’s very entertaining and looking forward to the trial!.Score: 5/5

AwesomeSuch a fantastic podcast!! Love it!!.Score: 5/5

The best at podcast about Elizabeth Holmes……unless you need a comedic version (hilariously recounted and judgment passed by two Aussie girls on a podcast called “CANCELLED”), Carryou’s “Bad Blood” is unequivocally the best podcast - throughly researched, most balanced - narrative about Ms Holmes and her start up “Theranos”. 5 stars!.Score: 5/5

5 StarsMore great work from John. I’m addicted already..Score: 5/5

It would be better if it was all freeI would rate this a 5 if I didn’t have to subscribe for some of the episodes.Score: 4/5

My favourite podcast ever!Even if you haven’t read John’s brilliant book, this podcast gives you enough background for a throughly riveting journey into the crazy world of Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes. Such a well finessed production makes listening a pleasure..Score: 5/5

Great podcastThis is by far the best podcast about Theranos. John provides a well researched and balanced investigation. He has a great narration style and this is such a well put together podcast documentary. This story is fascinating! Definitely recommended listening..Score: 5/5

Hidden Subscriptions - don’t bother.Bad Blood is an excellent book and Carreyrou is an fine author, this Podcast seems predatory by design and I’m disappointed that I have to get a “subscription” to what is going on in court. I can read the news myself! I’ve already paid for the book….locked episodes is just insulting..Score: 1/5

I am addicted with thisGreat podcast. I didn’t know anything about Theranos when I started to read, watch, listen about it recently. My father was journalist of AFP in Tokyo and know how important to get a justice and reveal the ugly side of society. I appreciate your courage and dedication. In the end, all innocent investors lost ,,,,we should not allow the snobby descendent from rich family with ties of powerful people to control our world !.Score: 5/5

Excellent! Hope her defence is not listeningThe book was fantastic. Podcast is also excellent. I hope her defence is not taking tips from it. It's a bit like OJ situation. She is guilty in a court of people. I don't know enough about medicine, so I would have believed her original idea, but professionals know you cannot do all these tests with a drop of blood. How did she raise funds and had people working for her. Still a mystery to me.Score: 5/5

FantasticEducated, well researched and unbiased reporting in today's soundbite world! Brilliant, thank you!!!.Score: 5/5

Thank you for saving HUMAN RACEAn in-depth look inside nitty and gritty workings of a company dubbed to be UNICORN. Thanks for exposing the fake UNICORN..Score: 5/5

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SFDiva2Margoandhow Holmes is testifying! So now is a good time to tune in. (not sure if the court is in session Monday, b… .Score: 5/5

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Emily_Saul_ JohnCarreyrou: A little Thanksgiving treat for subscribers: Since court doesn’t resume until Monday, we published bonus episode No. 13….Score: 5/5

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Bad Blood: The Final Chapter Podcast Episodes

Episode 10: Tyler and George

One of the enduring mysteries of the Theranos scandal is how Elizabeth Holmes managed to turn former Secretary of State George Shultz against his own grandson. New information sheds light on how she did it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

Episode 9: The Military

Elizabeth Holmes wowed investors with claims that Theranos was working for the U.S. military. But the truth was that her repeated attempts to land contracts with the Department of Defense had gone nowhere. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

Episode 8: Fake Demos

Elizabeth Holmes wowed investors, board members and journalists with live, in-person demonstrations that made it seem like her blood-testing machine worked. But most of these demos were faked. Behind the scenes, the blood samples were tested either manually or on third-party lab equipment. It's an astoundingly bold deception that was enabled by a software application Sunny Balwani wrote. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

Episode 7: The ADVIA Project

In the summer of 2013, as a deadline to launch in Walgreens stores loomed and Theranos was running out of money, Elizabeth Holmes and Sunny Balwani put in motion a covert plan to hack third-party blood-testing machines to hide the limitations of Theranos' technology. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

We Return Next Week

We'll be back with new full episodes on October 21st. Here's a little preview of what we've been working on. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

This Week in Court #4: PR Over Patient Care

Host John Carreyrou and reporter Emily Saul discuss prosecutors' introduction of private texts between Elizabeth and Sunny, the testimony of retired general James Mattis, and the trial's most important witness so far: former lab director Adam Rosendorff, who said Theranos prioritized PR and fundraising over patient care. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

Episode 6: Holmes and the Media

For two years, Elizabeth Holmes enjoyed the type of glowing media coverage most entrepreneurs can only dream of. But then she gave one interview too many—an interview with The New Yorker’s Ken Auletta that planted the seeds of her downfall. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

Episode 5: Fake it 'Till You Make It

Elizabeth Holmes is the latest in a long line of Silicon Valley entrepreneurs who’ve hyped and overpromised — sometimes to the point of outright lying. It’s that culture, as much as Holmes herself, that's on trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

Episode 4: Guilty Conscience

A note Elizabeth Holmes wrote to herself one night in late October 2014 suggests she knew she was committing fraud. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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